August 30th, 2009

Inconceivable

R.I.P. Senator Kennedy... Or not..

Some commentators' choice of words following Ted Kennedy's death - and the timing of them - have been neither respectful nor classy:

Eric Sanger, a director of The Sean Hannity Show, said on Facebook:
"The irony is that the media is already positioning Ted as a champion for the little man against wealth and privilege. This piece of garbage was the poster child for wealth and privilege. Hopefully, this event will mark the end of this repugnant family and all the endless crap, entitlement, personal indulgences and collateral damage." (emphasis added)

Wesley Pruden, a Washington Times columnist, wrote that Kennedy's death was "a good career move."

Andrew Breitbart, a fellow Times columnist, called Kennedy a "villain," a "duplicitous bastard," and a "prick" on Twitter.


While I am a STRONG advocate of free speech, and a person's right to speak their own truth... I think the choice of timing for these comments and others like them was extremely poor and showed little character.  It's disrespectful of the great loss being felt by the Senator's family and loved ones.  I can only imagine what it feels like to lose your husband or father.  But to then see ugly comments like these online on the same day as his death or in the days just after?  It's unnecessary, and regardless of your feelings for Ted Kennedy, or the Kennedys in general, the timing is horrible.

Not very classy at all. 

War not pro-life

Is waterboarding torture? Sen John McCain says yes... It is "very exquisite torture."

Remember waterboarding?  Do you think it's a form of torture? 

Liz Cheney (the former VP's oldest daughter, and wife of former general counsel for US Homeland Security) still says it's NOT torture.  Senator John McCain disagrees (see below)

What do you think?   Mistreatment?  Abuse?  Torture? 


::: Do you know what waterboarding is?  No?  Then click here and watch this. ::::



Here are a few snippets from a 2005 statement by John McCain.  I suggest you read the whole thing (see link below).

"Obviously, to defeat our enemies we need intelligence, but intelligence that is reliable. We should not torture or treat inhumanely terrorists we have captured. The abuse of prisoners harms, not helps, our war effort. In my experience, abuse of prisoners often produces bad intelligence because under torture a person will say anything he thinks his captors want to hear--whether it is true or false--if he believes it will relieve his suffering. I was once physically coerced to provide my enemies with the names of the members of my flight squadron, information that had little if any value to my enemies as actionable intelligence. But I did not refuse, or repeat my insistence that I was required under the Geneva Conventions to provide my captors only with my name, rank and serial number. Instead, I gave them the names of the Green Bay Packers' offensive line, knowing that providing them false information was sufficient to suspend the abuse. It seems probable to me that the terrorists we interrogate under less than humane standards of treatment are also likely to resort to deceptive answers that are perhaps less provably false than that which I once offered."

"The mistreatment of prisoners harms us more than our enemies. I don't think I'm naive about how terrible are the wages of war, and how terrible are the things that must be done to wage it successfully. It is an awful business, and no matter how noble the cause for which it is fought, no matter how valiant their service, many veterans spend much of their subsequent lives trying to forget not only what was done to them, but some of what had to be done by them to prevail."

"For instance, there has been considerable press attention to a tactic called "waterboarding," where a prisoner is restrained and blindfolded while an interrogator pours water on his face and into his mouth--causing the prisoner to believe he is being drowned. He isn't, of course; there is no intention to injure him physically. But if you gave people who have suffered abuse as prisoners a choice between a beating and a mock execution, many, including me, would choose a beating. The effects of most beatings heal. The memory of an execution will haunt someone for a very long time and damage his or her psyche in ways that may never heal. In my view, to make someone believe that you are killing him by drowning is no different than holding a pistol to his head and firing a blank. I believe that it is torture, very exquisite torture."

I've been asked often where did the brave men I was privileged to serve with in North Vietnam draw the strength to resist to the best of their abilities the cruelties inflicted on them by our enemies. They drew strength from their faith in each other, from their faith in God and from their faith in our country. Our enemies didn't adhere to the Geneva Conventions. Many of my comrades were subjected to very cruel, very inhumane and degrading treatment, a few of them unto death. But every one of us--every single one of us--knew and took great strength from the belief that we were different from our enemies, that we were better than them, that we, if the roles were reversed, would not disgrace ourselves by committing or approving such mistreatment of them. That faith was indispensable not only to our survival, but to our attempts to return home with honor. For without our honor, our homecoming would have had little value to us.

(Emphasis added)

Click here to read entire statement by Senator McCain (dated Nov 21, 2005).